# Terra Allies Development Team Spending Proposal & Trial Period **URL:** \ **Category:** Governance & Proposals\ **Created:** [April 19, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://classic-agora.terra.money/t/terra-allies-development-team-spending-proposal-trial-period/51300 "2023-04-19T23:43:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 119
**Author:** ![RabbiJebediah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/terra/user_avatar/classic-agora.terra.money/rabbijebediah/32/19578_2.png) [@RabbiJebediah](https://classic-agora.terra.money/u/RabbiJebediah)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://classic-agora.terra.money/t/terra-allies-development-team-spending-proposal-trial-period/51300/119 "2023-04-21T15:29:22Z")
> [@LukeAims](#): > > Mate, with that reply I bet you’re in it for yourself. Yes, I am. As are you. As should all of us be. I want a good team to do good work on LUNC, and increase the value of our assets. But if you’re implying I’m getting paid, then no - I’m not affiliated with Bilbo’s team, his prop, or any of the work they’d do. I just think he’s a great programmer and his senior team would get LUNC out of this rut it’s been in for the past 10+ months. Anyone holding this coin should want the same. > [@LukeAims](#): > > I tell you what i’m a hobbyist coder, mainly python and JS. That’s the thing - you’re a _hobbyist_. Bilbo’s crew are professionals, and senior devs. Also, there’s a mountain of difference between the skillset of a “coder” and a “professional programmer”. > [@LukeAims](#): > > I could jump on GitHub fork a few decent projects, change up the code a bit and claim it as my own. Undoxed no one would ever know. I’ll do the work for $16,000 and when it’s buggy you can pay me more to fix it. I highly doubt that. And the code would still need to be reviewed by others before going live. Your point is a useless non-sequitor that has no bearing on the fact you’re here trying to doxx a team just days after the CP was drained of $125,000 by Steve’s ghost crew (who not only lack doxxing but actual developers)! > [@LukeAims](#): > > It’s a billion dollar blockchain and you expect people to be okay with undoxed teams siphoning even more money away. Crypto is decentralised the dev teams that work on it shouldn’t be, especially in this context. Hard disagree on that, chief. This idiotic notion that every dev has to be doxxed was spun up and perpetuated by TGF and its ghouls for the expressed purpose of routing all control, payments, and further chain development through their “non-profit” org (so they could continue skimming a portion off the top while contributing absolutely nothing of value). It’s a load of shit. Especially on a chain as impoverished and deteriorating as LUNC. Go take a gander at the price chart, then tell me we have the luxury of turning away devs. Furthermore, doxxing doesn’t protect our community money in any way. Tobias was doxxed, Duncan was doxxed, and they did the AMA/spaces circuit much to the delight of the useful idiots in this thread asking for the same from Bilbo’s crew… yet look where both Duncan and Tobias ended up in the end, despite all their “community outreach”. You operate off a flawed premise, @LukeAims, and to make it even worse you lack the mental acuity to spot holes in the logic of what you’re saying - if you really _are_ a programmer you must be an incredibly shitty one. > [@LukeAims](#): > > The fact that when you hear something you don’t agree with you turn to insults, tells me all I need to know about you. It’s decisions like that, and people like you who cause all the money to be wiped out of the space. I’m just calling you out for your double standards. Instead of wasting time here braying like a mule about a trivial $10,000 to onboard a new team, why don’t you visit Steve’s L1 thread and ask him to return the rest of that $125,000 until his 1/6 team self-doxxes? Given the state of the community pool, I’d say that would get us more bang for our buck, and a larger return on your invested Agora time. > [@LukeAims](#): > > Do everyone a favour go give your head a wobble. No, I think I’ll keep dissecting your replies here and eviscerating you. It’s easy and fun… and benefits lurkers who are starting to realize the double standards at play here. TGF and their shills (you among them) will do anything to keep other devs from contributing to the chain. If you’d like to convince me otherwise, please visit Steve’s thread and ask his team to doxx, or return the money: **[Joint L1 Task Force Q2 Proposal with Amendments](https://classic-agora.terra.money/t/joint-l1-task-force-q2-proposal-with-amendments/50791)** If you don’t do that then you’re either a hypocrite, or a shill for TGF. Pick your poison! 🙃 > [@whisper\_NL](#): > > Would love it if the discussion can go back to the proposal itself, which is actually quite good Agreed. It’d be nice to see the usual suspects discuss the prop and its merits, not side-tangents. > [@JESUSisLORD](#): > > I have a built-in merge detector and this one is giving off alarm bells. It’s not a merge. You _ **know** _ how hard I campaigned against that during the LUNC + LUNA2 merge saga when it was being proposed on Twitter! [I even wrote an entire Medium article (trying to stay as neutral as I could) on the issue, despite being against the merge personally.](https://medium.com/@rabbi.jebediah.shekelstein/a-tale-of-two-moons-f68475fac19e) Cosmos Alliance Module is nothing like that. Again, read the documentation, expand your knowledge base! > [@JESUSisLORD](#): > > Yes I want LUNC to $1+ but I have my own vision for achieving it, which has no need to rely on other chains, and my own view for LUNC long term which is a deflationary coin with good staking rewards and useful utility. It won’t be enough. You can’t wall LUNC off from Cosmos, and expect enough liquidity for it to hit $1+. > [@JESUSisLORD](#): > > That’s what I support for LUNC, and I personally don’t like the Alliance module so it’s a NO from me on this prop on that basis. I understand the view of wanting to be linked to other coins in cosmos but I don’t want that, especially to the extent the Alliance module would bring. The Alliance Module will be a part of the current L1 team’s roadmap at some point in the future months from now, it’s a no-brainer. You’re entitled to your opinion (as wrong as I think it is), but I hope you won’t do a 180 and support the L1 when they announce they’ll be doing this. I’m gonna hold you to this, Christopher. If you’re willing to vote **NO** to a prop just on the basis of this one item/deliverable, then that logic should extend to other props which include it (regardless if they’re proposed by Bilbo or Steve/TGF). Screencapping this portion of the convo just so I can point back to it in the future if you flip-flop on it: ![JesusIsLord Alliance Module (NO to props)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/terra/original/3X/b/c/bc6cde92ecc9349684201ea28ae994d07077339a.png) Shalom! 🙏 --- _[View the full topic](https://classic-agora.terra.money/t/terra-allies-development-team-spending-proposal-trial-period/51300)._