All the community needs a central team of devs for is to build TC’s main core (a stable one)… once that’s completed ~ we no longer need that central team of devs, then decentralized devs take over (a well~built core should attract them). so, until we build that stable core ~ we need centralization… We need that team of TC community appointed devs to build a stable core that governs itself (like bitcoin) so we can be decentralized again after the fix. We also have to be careful that team doesn’t pump and drain (crash) TC again by not fixing the core.
TC needs (at least) an appropriately tuned circuit breaker to curb abrupt price changes to prevent another attack.
CZ please take over Terra Classic and save us from having to put up with this drama…
I am sick of it all…
If we want centralisation ask CZ to take over and give this chain a chance to survive
Otherwise we have Wolves dressed as Sheep’s trying to pull wool over our eyes pretending it’s decentralised
It hasn’t been decentralised since Terra Rebels came to the rescue.
For all the good they have done, the politics the power has corrupted a few.
This new group is TR Version 2 without @Vegas who might be popular with the community but the way he spoke to CZ that day on the AMA and lead the Twitter Mob was so damn disrespectful.
The intelligent ones have moved out of the much dysfunctional Terra Rebels Version 1.0
Wake up people, I know it’s Sunday but smell the coffee
If you want centralisation give it to a man who has integrity and has built a global business
If you want decentralisation then get rid of the toxic selfish Morons who have taken control.
Out of the 9 I only trust 2 the rest need to convince the community why they should have $60k/yr on top of all the other businesses they have generated from the Terra Classic misfortune
Then we can decide if they are worthy of the funds
As I’ve stated
How many hours a month for that $5k a month
It’s a simple question that won’t take a genius level of intelligence to answer
The funds belong to the community
The community can then decide the ‘Senate’ and compensation package
no permanent or temporary centralization. I don’t see it as necessary and they haven’t done anything to demonstrate the need to create such a thing either. It’s not solving the problem either. I only see people who want to be paid without doing anything.
All/most of you bought lunc in hopes to become a millionaire or make a lots of money, but you are against paying the devs 60k a year for the work or value they are bring to Lunc. I don’t get it, when some of you say the devs need to get paided, you mean…when Lunc pumps and you are in a good mood so you throws the devs lames as 20$ charity to divide among TR.
I think no one is denying the fact that developers should be well paid. Only this can help us build a solid core and atract the chain for futher use cases and development of the network. It is about the way in which access to funds is presented, the choice of representatives, the lack of a transparent remuneration mechanism. A much clearer path was proposed by @ek826 in the proposal Promote Chain Utility via Establishment of the Terra Classic Grants Program. Further developer financing should be discussed there, not here. Especially that proposal did not raise such doubts and, if I see correctly, it has already been voted on Terra Station.
If there are some resources that can be used to fund developers, managers and what I know, for example to rent a server to run the blockchain, then I am all for it. However, I agree with the views here. Sell everything, buy LUNCs and put them in a pool and then use that to withdraw funds for the necessary funding.
I agree that the community is not always in favor of one thing and in some cases it is better if 5 people agree to pay off the developer. However, as far as having full control over the financial value of over $4M, I completely understand the skeptical thinking of some people here. After all, people are worried about possible embezzlement and losing money.
As a compromise, the option of approving a financial budget for, say, the next 6 months, and then the managers can work with that budget. If they are experienced managers, as you write, then they are able to estimate how much funding they will need. Moreover, in this way managers can build trust with users and, over time, gain control over more funds
Fixing the TC core should be something someone (a coder) who holds Lunc could do without getting paid - the pay would come in the boost in the value of their Lunc… so, a central team (that gets paid) may just be another drain on the system…
Just to answer your earlier response. Yes I did call out Alex about Eds involvement in his first proposal as I genuinely couldn’t believe he would have been involved in something like that. When I found out I was wrong I apologised to both parties involved and I have NOT continues this narrative.
I’m not against Alex personally. But literally every proposal he puts forward divides the community. Every single one! He’s an extremely intelligent individual, yet continues with each proposal to disenfranchise at least one section of the community.
This proposal will give him the means and the power to dictate the direction of the chain and apply funding in the direction HE chooses.
If an organisation like the one he is proposing is the direction we should take and he believes it is the best thing for the community, it should be an elected group, not a group he personally chose and is made up in the majority of people who just agree with him.
If he brings out a proposal that’s fair and takes into consideration ALL community interests I have no problem supporting him and I’m sure the rest of the community feel the same. So to say I’m here just targeting Alex because I have a problem with him is simply not the case, I only have a problem with unjust proposals.
Maybe buy lunc with that 4.16m$ & burn it all. Let holders develop the TC core in a way that attracts devs to built utilities around that core that attracts users…
We (TC Community) will not get anywhere following the “established intelligent people” of this community if we all (those ‘popularly intelligent’ people included) do not all invest our time and talents (coders & philosophers) stabilizing the core of the TC-OS. That’s what this whole thing (the revival) comes down to. Investing means not seeing profits until construction is complete and that construction has been done right and well! 101. Focus on and construct a solid and attractive core while burning all we can until we hit 10billion and the people will come and our units (lunc) will rise.
Keep it Simple Keep it Fair Keep it Decentralized Keep it Stable Keep it Profitable
I recommend paying for any work not with fiat currency, but with LUNC tokens.This will increase the interest of developers in the growth of the price of the token.And when the price of the token reaches 0.0001-0.001-0.01-0.1-1 dollars, additionally pay developers a premium of 10,000,000 LUNC tokens.
This is nothing more than using the using the money for developers issue (which everyone is in favor) and adding self-serving pork.
They dont strongly support anything Alex does. They are unfortunately passive on anything controversial and continue actual work rather than a constant PR campaign to save USTN. This is nothing more than another angle for Alex a few other to save USTN. there must be a lot of money to be personally gained from it. Break down this proposal in 5 different items.
Absolutely not. From the part where you’re accepting money from the man who ruined and abandoned the block chain to the part where you’re receiving a 60k salary every year in perpetuity.
If anyone thinks this is a good idea, you are out of your mind. There is no accountability in deliverance of assets or development of blockchain. The clause that says they are immune from any litigation basically sets this wallet up as a trust fund. You are voting on making these devs trust fund babies. As someone who owns LUNC I vote NO.
This proposal is harmful because it will circumvent community governance by centralizing power in this unelected committee. These unelected committee members will have excessive control over Terra Classic’s direction, and be susceptible to private lobbying from groups like TFL. The original vision of realizing Terra Classic as the first truly decentralized, community run block chain will be lost.
Developers should be paid via the community pool by converting these off-chain assets into LUNC.
no one is against developers being paid. we are against centralization, the lack of transparency, the useless idea of creating a council, that the money is not controlled by the community
Yes i am sure you put countless hours of your time for free in hope to see a potential return overall on your position lol. Cmon they are just like us. You want to get paid for your work, they want to get paid for their work. Your hope your bags gain in value, They hope their bags gain in value. They doesnt hold trillion token. Zaradar own 150 million, i own 100 million, he does put countless hours in this, i do nothing, is that fair ?
I do pro-bono work ~ sometimes we must put our time and energy into trying to create something good for humanity… there are things I do that are intense that I do to try to improve reality. I guess that methodology is rare.