Yes.
Get active on social media. Call them out.
Message LUNC validators and tell them not to support this theft!
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same people, same conversations. People who don’t mind making questionable comments even when something good happens. Keep up the drama. Advertising is not good or bad. it means some things are done right. 
destroying instead of developing, creating problems instead of solving, ignoring instead of creating. Sahalalalom 
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11432 Proposal**
“YES”
Much work needs to be done on LunC chain. Go ahead L1 Task Force team!
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This is good quote and I shall take this into account.
I know that most don’t like Rabbi here and I am talking in the same breath as Rabbi and that is weird for everyone to note. For some weird reason, he and I think alike. We are definitely different people since we were supposed to do the multisign wallet prop together and we have an actual conversation on Discord where we discussed and decided it’s better for us not to do this together, since I did not agree with his idea and he did not agree with mine. I know this is unbelievable after you have seen us agree on things over here, but it’s absolutely true. I don’t agree with him on many things and he doesn’t agree with some things that I say. We don’t need to. That’s not why we are here.
I have mentioned this before and I am saying this again. We are not here to make friends and family. This is a one billion dollar chain at the least. We have a responsibility to manage this chain to the best of our abilities.
There are YouTubers from India making videos on YouTube about Terra Luna Classic and bringing more investors onto the chain every day. I represent my country of 1.4 billion people.
These are young people who are getting into investment and they are investing their hard earned money into this cryptocurrency. They don’t participate in all this governance. They won’t be able to understand, articulate and express themselves properly in such discussions.
Our languages are not the same, yet what connects us is crypto
I do not want their investments and mine to go down the drain because a couple of developers woke up one day and decided they wanna run the chain in a certain way. That cannot happen. That’s not why we have been given the responsibility of managing this chain.
Also, this chain does not manage itself. It requires investors, validators, developers, influencers AND corporate users to work in unison to manage it. That’s why we could retain what value was invested in us.
We are at a crucial junction at the journey of Terra Luna Classic and the least that we should be doing is having more scrutiny over the work that developers are doing on the chain. This will enable us to retain and run this chain not only for the next 2 years, but for the next 20, if that is what you want. At least for me, this is what I want.
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After reading this document from Edward Kim I must retract some of my comments regarding the L2 work that might be coming on chain down the road. I wish this document came out before the is agora was sent out. See EKs “Medium” document that came out yesterday. Agora wont allow the link to be posted
However most other peoples very realistic comments about how money is being spent should still be addressed. Build and burn is a complete myth unless there is a plan to build and so thanks to Edward Kim (for the 100th time) for preparting this document.
At least the building side of things is more well addressed by this and I hope everyone reads this document who has doubts about future L2 development.
Mark M
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Thats another problem to highlight.
Have you ever seen L1 devs commenting here?
Did @ek826 and @LuncBurnArmy answer all the concerns raised here?
Are you aware that its mostly validators voting now and most members dont participate?
It all means they can seal the vote in private chats and dont need to give a single f about the concersation here.
Its an absolute utter joke. Agora is the official forum for governance as per blockchain rules. Not twitter or discord.
This is not proper governance and there will be a price to pay for this sooner than later.
You know things are sht when even a utuber is able to destroy your (((lead dev))) in about 3 minutes.
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Still doesn’t change these facts:
- the community didn’t fund the L1 JTF and TGF to do non-L1 work (Senate, Dojo, Doxxing, Ziggy, etc.)
- the community was lied to by members of the L1 JTF (Tobias) and TGF (Steve, Marco, perhaps Ed)
- TGF wants to bill the community for legal defense for themselves since they’re doxxed US citizens
- TGF wants to onboard a sketchy legal firm to meet a problem they created (doxxing themselves)
- TGF wants the community to fund the org’s migration to the Caymans, for no apparent reason
- TGF members (Marco, Steve) are paid thousands of $$$ per month despite not being developers
- TGF bills itself as a “grants foundation”, but has not approved or distributed money towards that
- TGF still has funds left over from Q1 which haven’t been returned to the community pool yet
- L1 and L2 work shouldn’t be intermingled, nor such disparate spending props bundled together
- the Q1 roadmap promised by TGF hasn’t been completed, and as such Q2 can’t/shouldn’t begin
- the current Q2 spending prop (this thread) was sent to the Station for voting after only 4 days
- the current Q2 spending prop (this thread) includes major non-L1 initiatives no one asked for
- the current Q2 spending prop (this thread) is full of negative sentiment TGF hasn’t addressed
- TGF likes to claim the L1JTF is a separate/autonomous unit within the org, but that’s a lie
Ed can write all the Medium articles he wants, he’s stepped away from LUNC leadership and handed TGF over to Marco. The current situation is a clusterfuck of epic proportions due to the lies, grift, theft, and mismanagement perpetrated by the TGF - ergo, anything Ed writes to defend said org can be used against him if any legal case is brought up against TGF itself in the future for mismanagement of funds and collusion to perpetrate unlawful actions against LUNC investors.
If I were Professor Kim I’d be extremely careful of what I wrote or who I tried to defend.
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Thanks for posting the video. I would have done it myself. The development team should actually go to YouTube and check all the videos there rather than hanging around all day long on Twitter in the comments section of other people’s posts. That’s literally what Z and luncburnarmy is doing all day today.
It does look like there has already been some internal meeting within closed rooms which is why everyone is so chill about the vote. They know they will get it passed.
No one in normal circumstances could be so chill about this vote, but the L1 team, WITHOUT having completed the work at hand, is chilling without even replying here in Agora which I WAS TOLD HERE IN AGORA is the OFFICIAL platform for communication for Terra Luna Classic.
They are not even answering direct questions addressed to them either on Agora or Twitter. They will come back tomorrow playing the victim card and crying about how stressed they were with all the f(udd)ing on Twitter and how they could not work cause we were disturbing them. Classic crybaby cr(a)p.
I can’t even begin to comprehend the cr(ap) they are pulling on us.
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Validator votes are forever logged on the blockchain, if they vote to get this current Q2 passed it’ll forever taint the ones who did it. Once Tubby and the TGF have been removed (in due time) we’ll also deal with corrupt validators who keep vandalizing the chain’s safety either our of ignorance or corrupt backroom deals with the TGF itself.
Whatever the outcome, the parasites will be purged… sooner or later.
The road to a $1 LUNC leads through a graveyard of digital corpses.
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I just want the L1 Task Force to reply here. As far as I understand there are 5 people in the team, who are evidently alive. So, we can hope that at least one will reply here. If they don’t, then I can consider that this died a natural death, though considering how much they need this money and how much people wanna give them this money, I do not think they are going anywhere. It almost makes me wonder if anyone is getting a commision from L1TF for voting on this. I can also see on Twitter how many validators came here to check the discussion before voting. Cause I am talking to them right now over there and I do not think anyone has checked this conversation in Agora yet. If they do, I do not think they will feel the same way they feel right now. It’s almost too easy to shield validators from the reality.
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Cant argue with you Rabbi, your points are vaild and must be addressed. But at least Read Kims paper about the L2 development and venture capital he is seeking, they may have that part right. I think they should finish Q1 initiatives and deliverables at no cost to build trust.
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Maybe they do start paying attention when US authorities actually start looking into them. I hope it won’t come to that.
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Une équation qui me va aussi 
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You reap what you sow. Even if this vote passes now, I will know that one section of the community at least tried to stop it.
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Only 2.5% voted so far. Too soon to draw a conclusion.
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Holy hell finally got to the end of this thread…
To those talking about LunC price…let’s be real: Market Makers dictate price in the micro. The Market dictates price in the Macro.
What that means is price is currently in a consolidation range unrelated to 3 months worth of LunC development. The bottom of the as yet unmet Daily fair value gap is at 0.00009381. The bottom of the preceeding bullish order block is 0.0000852.
There are no hard and fast rules in trading, but at least understand what areas the algos like to look at.
To those talking about cost of developers…$13k in a month ain’t a little, and it ain’t a lot. Anyone in IT knows this to be true.
Good luck out there everyone.
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While it’s true that market makers can influence the prices under certain conditions, lunc disappointed lately. Whole market recovered at 6-9 months high while Lunc went lower and lower.
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Guys, we are part of a big project and our future can be epic!
Let us always remember to be united, even when it seems difficult.
Three months is too short to definitively judge anyone. The L1 team is proving to be very open to all explanations of the case, let’s trust them and time will tell.
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This is an appropriate write up to explain the status of all commissioned work, what was completed, what was not, why it was not completed, and when it will be completed (v2.0.0 targeting 3rd or 4th week of April).
This is what I would expect. With respect, this should have been delivered before the discussion thread for renewal, and before the vote was put up.
This gives us more to base our decisions from, and should in the future (if the L1TF is renewed), be provided at the end of Q2 before any Q3 proposal is put forward.
For me I acknowledge the work that has been completed, all tasks were completed aside from v2.0.0 or those mentioned are not needed, and now a suitable explanation for delay and estimation of date to be completed is provided.
My other core issues cannot be resolved as I do not agree with the “Ziggurat” proposal which I believe is a danger to the chain as admitted by its proposer, and I do not support AI development and the L1TF working on an AI-side chain. Now the clear words from the L1 from the medium article indicate this is true, “And to provide support to team ‘X’ related initiatives including development of AI sidechain for Luna Classic as well as the repeg.”
If I vote yes I would be agreeing to the L1TF working on what I strongly disagree with, and voting for the funding for them to do so. Therefore I have voted NO due to these proposals being included within the scope for Q2.
I appreciate the work done so far, and the parity Q2 work within the proposed plan (I agree with that), but I cannot agree with prop #11432 due to the inclusion of L1 work on the “Ziggurat” proposal and the AI side-chain. Regards, Christopher.
JESUSisLORD LUNC Validator.
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It also went 7x while the market did not.
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