Ok ok let’s break this up, shall we? Let’s just stay relevant to the topic of discussion. @tarikmandal your posts are getting hidden cause you are posting “off-topic.” We do not have channels for such discussions here, so please.
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It seems money pipe will be closed for Q2 seasson, In this respect we already see chicken fight on twitter. Its always like that when such easy money grabbing is involved. Proposal would be approved immidiatelly if major goals would be delivered as promised. Q2 goals should be agreed together with community and not opposit with some solo action of dev “capo” who thinks we are kids,fudders etc…sometimes you just need to look in the mirror …
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All of the screaming and arguing over Q2 proposal is actually the best thing to ever happen to LUNC. It will provide clarity. Some people will leave and other people will replace them. What is happening is good not bad. They call it FUD but it is actually necessary to bring people together with different ideas and people who have never spoken up before and now doing so. It is actually awesome to see the passion and watch the flow of ideas.
Doing things quarter by querter may not the best way, Schedule should be based on deliverables and logical stopping points along the way. I can write technical documents well and could help the team if necessary, no charge! Because these documents are so poorly written sometimes they need more peer reviewers before they are released.
Mark M
Forexearlywarning
Looking to build forex apps on Terra-but nobody responds to my inquiries!
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I can’t believe what I am hearing on the Spaces right now.
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Sorry ladies and gents, why are we focusing on the WHO rather than the WHAT this L1 dev team will deliver for us in the next 3 months?
Who gives a flying f* what their names are and what they do or say on Twitter. We are not here to make besties you/I don’t have to like them, we want them to deliver a piece of work which I hope most of us agree to (in its majority) and THAT is what matters. Could it be done cheaper, maybe yes, maybe no…I can not do it, can you? Yes? Can you start yesterday?
Three months down the line they will deliver technical improvements to this chain that we need, whether it’s Buda, Visnu, Christ, or Mohamad that does it is IRRELEVANT. PARITY is relevant, L1 names not so much.
So the questions to ask are:
- Have they shown reliability in delivering in the timescales they said they would?
- Do they have the know-how?
- Are we happy with the core task deliverables in three months’ time?
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Have you heard Jerry’s Spaces which has just wrapped up?
You have no idea about what happened just now, do you?
This prop is practically over.
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Nop! Is it relevant to the deliverables and the development not moving forward?
If it’s about he/she said this and the other and personal bickering and testimonials I’m not sure I would like to listen to that tbh. I treat the L1 devs as contractors for a job and that’s that.
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As a community we’ve become confused from our original stated aims.
I feel we need to embrace 3 simple pillars
-work to reduce the supply of Lunc through burning or other mechanisms
-encourage and set the conditions for increased utility and usercase (utility moving over or launching on the classic chain from mainnet is a massive opportunity
-some type of repeg of USTC (it seems this may be unfeasable)
This is where we should direct our funding, although Terraport are contibuting to the first 2 they managed to arrange funding themselves.
We should prioritise our scarce funds to the above 3 pillars
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No with veto what a rubbish act by zaradar what the hell he thinks about him self? Community paying this silly mad shit and he blocked almost the whole community… Big no to this sucker
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Lol. You don’t understand. LOB is not gonna come back. If he does, I gotta say he has balls.
He sure has a lot of explaining to do cause the first thing he needs to explain is what was he doing “investigating” and reporting Zaradar to the authorities 
Then he needs to explain how he made the Unity Validator fail. Then he needs to explain how is he working for the L1TF and the TGF right now and lying to us about it.
Zaradar has currently blocked the entire community on Twitter and claiming that he has got another job 
Superman has NOT been working for the last 6 weeks as admitted by Zaradar. I don’t even know how they have the name of a paid employee in the team, who doesn’t exist for the last 6 weeks. We don’t know yet whether he has been caught by the authorities or not.
I don’t think there is a L1TF to begin with, to even discuss any further.
In fact, most of the people are a danger to the community and should be removed, and if required, appropriate action should be initiated against certain individuals who have taken our community funds to do what we don’t even properly know.
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Who is “LOB”?
Mind elaborating on this a bit? I caught only a small portion of the AMA with DemonMonkey.
Tobias is gone, he confirmed accepting an IRL job offer. He won’t be returning to LUNC work.
This is the part that worries me. Has anyone managed to contact him? I’ve tried, but he’s nowhere to be found. How can TGF put up a prop including a guy who’s currently missing?!
This prop and the current version of the L1 JTF is over. TGF is soon to follow, the authorities are going to crucify them. I’m currently working with a few other devs to bootstrap a new streamlined L1, pray we manage to pull it off or else LUNC won’t have an L1 team for the foreseeable future…
Agreed. We have the 3 good devs (Superman, Frag, Vinh) - everyone else involved in the L1JTF and TGF is needless weight, and have to go… especially after what came out in tonight’s AMA.
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The only solution i currently see is a AMA to address all the community questions and concerns (at least the reasonable ones) so we can move forward to whatever direction.
What i think is that most people are complaining because the price of lunc is going down and are trying to blame the L1 team for that because their bags are underwater not looking at the bigger picture that the more we delay parity the smaller the chance of recovery is. If you have a vision for Lunc to be a 10-20-50b chain in the future , arguing about 140k at this critical point of time is just ridiculous.
If anyone has a alternative team that can do the same work for less, please go ahead and open up a proposal so we can keep moving in the right direction but proposing Zaradar’s team without him in it is just ridiculous.
Same with the Ziggy proposal, no good bro, bad idea bro, the guy spent months of research and work to develop a plan to make $10b out of thin air and people answer with naaaah. Come on be serious, if you are going to criticize provide an alternative. If you have a personal agenda against someone go discuss it on private. ( I am not a supporter of Ziggy but still)
Just heads up for the people with underwater bags, the next 2 big catalysts for Lunc after Terraport are parity and repeg (which hopefully doesent become useless with USDC coming to the cosmos), if we are left without a team to work on those shortly the FUD will get much worse and you can expect a bigger drop. ( not financial advice).
I personally have no complaints against the L1 team for Q1 except that they should’ve been a little more engaged with the community for example , “hey we see that there is a bug with the mobile station and we have asked TFL to look into it” , “hey since the first chain halt update had issues we will delay V2 until we pass all the testing and are assured it will go smoothly” and so on but other than that i really hope you get the Q2 funding and im sure things will get much better. A lot of uneducated people like to throw tasks and blame the L1 team for things that are not in their line of work. Shoutout to @HappyCattyCrypto1 for trying to educate and express personal unbiased opinion on all thins lunc. (maybe he could host the suggested AMA).
Also i kind of understand why Zaradar is affected, the guy is tired of all the nonsense and attacks from the moonboys.
This tweet alone proves to me as a non technical person that the guy knows what he is talking about.
Plot twist: The L1 team doesent get the funding and go work for TFL on Luna2, haha.
Just throwing my 2cents, good luck to everyone and please go vote , its important.
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This is too logical someone will attack this soon.
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Thank you for your feedback. I would suggest that the top three items mentioned are not correct. The primary reason the vote went up is that we would like to bring the chain to parity as soon as possible. In addition, it is impossible to gain accurate sentiment within this agora thread as there are many that are posting only FUD without offering any solutions.
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Agreed. We have the 3 good devs (Superman, Frag, Vinh) - everyone else involved in the L1JTF and TGF is needless weight, and have to go… especially after what came out in tonight’s AMA.
What software development experience do you have to make this assertion? With respect to the AMA, the blatant and salacious attack calling a $120 accounting error “Embezzlement”?
Who is it that you are exactly? Who would the developers be working for? You already have your own proposal and clearly have your own agenda, and as such, every post you make appears to have only one intention behind it – to tip the scales in your favor, in order for you to be running the development team on the blockchain. There is no meaningful effort to discuss how the proposal could be made better, or any meaningful discourse from your posts.
Also, I have an excellent working relationship with Vinh, and Superman. I’d suggest it is highly unlikely that they be willing to work for you and/or your team, especially because you are unknown.
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I don’t need any to recognize the massive clusterfuck that TGF has turned this chain into.
Touched a nerve, have I?
Someone who’s been watching you take thousands of dollars a month for work that’s not worth a fraction of that. I think you’re an asset to the community, Steve, but you’re overpaid as hell at a time when we can barely afford an L1 team.
That’s where you’re wrong. Despite what you and many others seem to believe, I’d love nothing more than to relax and watch from the sidelines as smarter people than myself work hard to revive LUNC and add value to my investment. But after 3+ months of watching you lot fumbling around, I’ve had to take matters into my own hands if for no other reason than to stop a handful of you US-based numbskulls from whoring out the blockchain to the SEC and plundering it of all value as you extract funding to cover your own doxxed asses from legal liability. I listen to all your AMAs, all your spaces, I lurk your GitHub and I receive DMs from people you’d not think would ever send them to me. I know all your dirty little secrets, Steve, and believe me, I am the least of your worries! The IRS will nail you to a cross soon. All of you.
I’ll add meaningful discourse to your thread after you’ve dignified most of the concerned posts here with an answer. Given the current situation, I’d suggest you spend the night answering the community here, instead of ignoring them. Also, TGF is about $30k in the red as far as financial records go… in addition to the Superman situation. Then there’s the whole misappropriation of funds, violation of non-profit status, misleading of community/investors, etc., the list goes on… Y’all screwed the pooch, Steve! Ed was smart to bail when he did, tho given the situation there’s a chance the incoming dragnet catches him as well.
That’s fine, they can make their own choices. But there won’t be a TGF soon enough (nor an L1JTF), so I reckon they’ll jump ship and follow the money, like most people do in such situations.
I’d advise you to lawyer up. Not because of me, I’m not even in the States… because of Uncle Sam.
Have a good night, Steve!
Shalom. 
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I don’t think they care about that. Don’t tire yourself out.
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This gonna be a hell no from me.
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