If @Zaradar does not do any work, then he should not be paid. Where is your proof that Z is a non-functional, leeching L1 developer?
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Go ahead and re-read the OP.
Done? Now do it again!
And then once more.
Then hit the GitHub, and read through all of that.
Also I never said that Tubby does no work, only that most of what he does isnât worth doing. 
We shouldnât be paying the fool $13,000/month to write wikis and âmentorâ random junior devs!
If youâd listened to his AMA last night with DJ Trev youâd have heard it from the horseâs mouthâŚ
Tubby and his buddies at the TGF want to use LUNC money to turn the blockchain into a tradfi vehicle they can leech indefinitely to provide legal coverage for themselves while adding worthless departments like HR, just so the doxxed morons can farm IRL clout and rub elbows with other doxxed âinvestorsâ⌠all while bowing to the SEC and acting like LUNC is somehow beholden to US laws (itâs not).
Now I dunno about you, but I for one didnât invest in LUNC to watch some deluded boomer mangle the chain into his personal fetish that has nothing to do with the projectâs original use or function! We paid Tubby and the others to produce L1 code, not to waste community money on pointless âDojosâ, apprentice training seminars, unelected senates, doxxing initiatives, lawyer fees, SEC blowjobs, or any of the other mountain of bullshit theyâre trying to push down the pipeline!
@Dannavan_Morrison, youâre attacking me because youâre operating on incomplete data.
Tobias and the TGF are scourges upon LUNC, they are not yours or anyoneâs benefactors!
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Ä°m not attack you, tell my think 
If you think community stop try steal
Weird how you failed to use tags to @ my account.
Why so jelly?
Well, you havenât seen this yet then from Ziggyâs funding paper you can find it here:
Alex is back! 
In fact, a lotta people are back including Faffy and Ed.
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I donât believe LUNC Community is that stupid tbh. Repeg project from a guy who bankrupted on a 60,000 USD student debt and maxed credit cards? This is not someone who would be allowed anywhere around critical finance information, let alone algorithms that are supposed to steer a price of an asset. None of his business ideas to date have worked. Not to mention he is responsible for introducing the re-mint mechanism which eventually led to losing half of Binance partnerships worth.
No, community canât be that stupid. Rite?
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@Mpowski youâre in the wrong thread.
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mr.baboon
@Mr_Bab00n
Joined February 2023
Who is Mr. Baboon? Another Ex-TR ? We really want to destroy LUNC. Go ahead remove Z and get @faddat . The next proposal will be get rid of Jacob! And the vicious cycle to wreck LUNC will continue. TR->JL1TF->Jacob&The Rest->NO LUNC.
If this proposal passes this will lead to the eventual collapse in the chain. TOO MUCH DRAMA! Very bad for investors.
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Hi Dannavan_Morrison,
Since youâre going this route iâll say that i am just an investor who bought into lunc and joined a discord which happened to be TR. I am not in any way affiliated with TR nor have i ever asked to be funded from the community pool unlike others.
If you truly want to get to know me better you can always join one of the other lunc discords and we can chat further, since this is the proposal section i would like to keep this thread related to the proposal.
I will say that there are more and more problems emerging that only now the community is starting to see including me so I am just here trying to help.
I would also say judge a proposal by itâs contents not by who wrote it or how many followers the authors have on twitter
Now since you all like to fling this ex-TR stuff like its some kind of accusation i would like to remind people of who founded it and on whose watch it imploded. Itâs funny that itâs always the same person in the middle of these things.
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A proposal of this nature needs to be done by someone who is doxxed and can be held responsible for any failure. I am satisfied with the work the L1 team has delivered on their Q1 tasks. How can you put a team together without first consulting them?
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No it does not. LUNC is a decentralised chain. We dont need Cayman Island LTDs, board of directors and hired lawyers. No one asked the L1 team to âââdoxxxxxxxxâââ themselves. It was their own choice.
Also if you are talking about holding people accountable - why dotn you start here. TGF spent 15k on a project manager who managed 0 grants and development of a seeemingly basic website for 6k.
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One reason for doxxing oneself in the crypto and blockchain community is to establish credibility and trust. Many investors and enthusiasts in the space want to know who they are dealing with and may be more likely to trust someone who is transparent about their identity and background.
Additionally, some crypto projects and businesses may require team members to be doxxed in order to comply with regulatory requirements or to demonstrate transparency to their users.
We tend to talk about decentralization as if it can exist without some level of centralization . That concept will never work.
If they were not doxxed who would be held accountable? You cant eat your cake and still have it.
TGF proposal was overwhelmingly passed by our governance rule. If we need a report on your claim ask for it.
The bottom line however is that we have individuals attacking the lead developer @Zaradar with baseless accusations of non-performance. The man does the bulk of the work and he is the lead developer contrary to what some people have stated. He did not take a cent of the money awarded to the rest of the TR team. He worked for months without pay. If Z is attacked on any space , he has a right to defend himself.
There are individuals in this forum who have repeatedly hurled insults at members. Letâs stop the continuous infighting on the chain. Letâs not satisfy the agenda of selfish people.
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He is on a holiday currently without completing the work for Q1. If you wish to defend him, at least ask him to complete his work without taking a holiday right now. The defense would make sense then.
Currently, heâs on Twitter boasting about being a React Native developer also (which I didnât know he was).
The best part about this reply is he is basically holding the community at ransom, implying that if we donât pay him heâs not gonna complete 2.0.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply.
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Regards Bilbo. Has a discussion with the members of the L1 team taken place where his involvement has been discussed?
Regards LBA, some of what he does i think does add value, what he delivers could maybe be better communicated.
However i think with the extent of his role been part time maybe he should be voluntary, but as a manager if everything is delivered on budget, on time, and with no failures then he could receive a bonus for this.
Also as manager, as he has mentioned he is, a lot of confrontation and angst amongst community members has neen caused through poor PR, people / contributor management and this by default falls on the managers shoulders. Insulting the community / colleagues in many organisations would make a position intennable and potentially instant dismissal.
Maybe the manager needs the ability to review contractors behaviour as IRL, possibly needing more power, and having the ability for community relations for a contracted team is vital.
I have not seen any results of the many reviews and investigations that have been carried out, however maybe i am not looking in the right places. Regards risk management it would be useful to see how this is managed and how tolerability and risk treatment is determined.
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My own vision for L1 was that it was an open collaborative team where others would be welcome, paid or not.
Having vision is important to shape strategy, however we all should want LUNC to rise and be happy to play our part in helping that happen. As a member of TerraCVita, none of the core team were paid to do any of the work we have done, contractors have contributed and they are paid appropriately, and they are held to account through constant contactor performance reviews. If they cannot justify their salary, or they do not want to then they are not needed, as simple as that.
So this aside our Team, has / is
- Helped create validators
- Rescued millions of LUNC from scammers
- Set up community support groups
- Helped projects get off the ground
- Brought Terraport and TerraCasino.io
- Coordinate delivering the infrastructures endpoints
- Burned millions of LUNC
- Brought IBCâs
And we are:
- Building a launchpad
- Community Hub
- Finalising classic station with swaps
- Helping more dapps and projects get off the ground.
And much moreâŚ
This has been voluntary because our biggest payday will be when LUNC rises in value. It is fair for effort and commitment to be compensated for, however that shoukd be very transparent and delivered honestly.
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God bless you, TerraCVita!
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Impossible when Rabbi come forward bashing every single proposal that he feels detrimental to the community (and by detrimental it means community funds are not being directed to his allies). It happened to Alex, it happened post-TR fiasco and it is happening now again.
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Iâm on vermin duty. I see cockroaches, I reach for the poisonâŚ
Yes I know itâs painful to watch as your idols are torn down, but someoneâs gotta do the ugly work since thereâs people like you @wagnerdalcin who shill for thieves and grifters despite them plundering the LUNC community.
And just to answer your moronic and baseless accusation:
- I only bash props which are actively harmful to the community/blockchain/price-action
- neither I nor my âalliesâ (lmao who??) ever asked for, received, or spent any community money
- Alex has a long history of wanting to control the chain, same as Tubby, so he was dealt with
- TR died because Tubby and company wanted to turn it into a non-LUNC work-for-hire whorehouse
- this current saga with TGF will end as well, and everyone will realize I was/am correct⌠yet again
Shalom! 
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@faddat would you/Notional be willing to work on TC under the terms outlined above?
I recall you had your own proposal back in December which suggested an alternative payment method and roadmap.
This proposal needs rewriting if youâre not up for it.
Same for @NovaValidator, @fragwuerdig and Vinh, Ironman. If anyone can get in touch with the latter two that would be grand.
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They donât care to know how valuable a job they are doing. Their goal is to look for something they can discuss, humiliate, and destroy. Despite everything, they may even criticize you. There is a segment of people who do not stop making posts that will harm your work, discredit it, and create distrust. The society notices these and takes precautions very easily and can easily forget them. As an investor, I decided to end my investments. I have very little trust in this society.
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This is laughable! You cant be serious! And pay him $5000.00/mth as an L1 developer? Less than Ironman!