So these ‘Rebels’ (our only hope) turned the critical switched back on to build up a pool to drain into their coffers? That’s what it’s looking like… plus, they want to continue to centralize instead of decentralize things.
Just because these Rebels turned on those switches doesn’t make them trustworthy. They lack the details required to justify us transferring them money from our pool ~ at least so far in this cryptojourney.
If this prop passes ~ the pool gets drained unnecessarily and this community proves it lacks any good judgement.
I see a governance prop has now been raised for this. Can you please confirm, as per my previous question; what is the cost of the ongoing hosting/maintenance OPEX? And how will funding be sought for this?
Terra Rebels didn’t turn any of those switches the community did. The Rebels also didn’t put up those proposals, again community members did.
Those funds are available for anyone building/maintaining the chain to apply for through governance. If you think a proposal doesn’t merit the funds you can vote against.
At this stage TR have been maintaining the chain for free for 7months. Why shouldn’t they be paid to continue and to fully pull us independent of TFL? We need it. Then we can actually start building utilities
@RedlineDrifter ~ If they didn’t turn the switches back on ~ what exact did they do? Validators maintain(ed) the chain… the history of those ‘Rebels’ is seriously mysterious… not good. Is the unnecessary wallet their big contribution? Please, I really want details of the Rebel’s work for this community.
In the end I have voted no because although I appreciate Rebel efforts so far with this proposal:
They lied to us rather than presenting the community with the truth of available options they chose an attempt at deceiving the community
This initial proposal is over funded without a clear break down and ongoing costs are not put up for vote
I am not in favour of separation from TFL and Cosmos and the coming developments. I have to assume that if TR cannot upgrade Terra Luna to keep up with develpment - how could we hope they will be able to develop utility?
I want to thank TerraCVita Validator who has taken over responsiblity maintaining Terra Station after the Rebels dropped the ball. We should fund them instead. Looks to me like we are throwing money at the Rebels for saving their own bacon rather than supporting the community. A simple proposal of give us some money for what we have done would have gone down better with me than this what feels like a deception all the way. Thanks
This prop may or may not be necessary but DK says it’s not (his mention of the inclusion of Lunc in future upgrades of the Terra Station)… being rushed into a purchase is never good! Plus, this prop lacks details!
High pressure sales are necessary for unnecessary and/or crappy products to be sold…
Community: Don’t get pressured (by threats) into letting our pool get drained unnecessarily! Other great plans are currently being put together…
Im sick of TR drama, they will take hostages and demand payment every time and if society doesn’t agree they will get angry. It’s time to be kicked out of the lunc community, the TR parasite must be eradicated immediately so it doesn’t spread and paralyze the community.
" wouldn’t it cheaper to ask money now for v23 so we have parity with luna and then there would be no incompatibility problem with interchain station?"
With this proposal TR clearly say that they are representing their own ego trip and not our coin value. With the FUD they created they also damaged profitability of the Validators at least temporarily as people thought they had to unstake their coins.
At the very least they need to upgrade to v23 with priority just to prove that they can. If they cannot - they cannot do anything else for LUNC either and we are so much better off saying no to this.
Correct me if I am wrong .You built your infrastructure for this RS and dApps without governance. Hence, you are dictating to us your pathway instead of the community. After six months with 42+ Rebels we cant get a core component proposal? We appreciate the Band Aid fixes but we want emphasis on building the core of the chain. Let the community decide on that. We will vote on proposals to fund it.
i don’t think they try to dictact their pathway and that is not fair to say it. For 6 month, the community has been very vocal to cut strings from TFL. TR are just proposing a way to do it. And they propose it now because despite tfl says, there is a risk depending on tfl much longer as tfl past behavior showed us.
Calling what TR did, “band aid fixes” is not true either, they already provided core development for free, like V22, dragonberry…
personally i would prefer V23 sooner but we should not diminish nor enhence what they have done till now.
Lets just be fair so we can choose wisely
Do we need two wallets? We have a Bugatti wallet that has the engine running like a well oiled machine. Fully supported by TFL Why do we need a “copy and paste wallet” LADA for $150,000.00. That’s not blockchain development. TR built that wallet for their own reasons. This RS wallet will be no good in the future. $150,000.00 will be absolutely be burnt to ashes.